The Spalding Enigma: The Fallacy of Repetition Continued?

The Manuscript Witnesses Statements Compared

 

Name

John Spalding

Martha Spalding

Oliver Smith

Nahum Howard

Aron Wright

Henry Lake

John Miller

Artemus Cunningham

Matilda Davison

Matilda McKinstry

Josiah Spalding

Joseph Miller

Redick McKee

John McKinstry

Daniel Tyler

Erastus Rudd

Joseph Miller

James Briggs

Matilda McKinstry

Hiram Lake

Lorin Gould

Abner Jackson

Joseph Miller

Joseph Miller

Matilda McKinstry

Rachel Derby

J.C. Dowen

Jacob Sherman

Charles Grover

William Hine

William Leffingwell

Redick McKee

James Briggs

James Briggs

James Briggs

Date of statement

Jul/Aug 1833

Jul/Aug 1833

Aug 183

Aug 1833

Aug 1833

Sep 1833

Sep 1833

Sep 1833?

April 1839

1843

Jan 1855

Mar 1869

Apr 1869

Aug 1877

Jan 1878

Jan 1878

Feb 1879

Mar 1875

Apr 1880

Dec 1880

Dec 1880

Dec 1880

Jan 1882

Feb 1882

Oct 1882

Dec 1884

Jan 1885

Feb 1885

Mar 1885

Mar 1885

Jun 1885

Jan 1886

Jan 1886

Mar 1886

Oct 1886

Relation to S.S.?

Brother

Sister-in-law

Boarder/neighbor

Neighbor

Neighbor

Bus. Partner

Employee/Tenet/close neighbor and friend with John Spalding

Lender

Wife

Daughter

Brother

Neighbor in Amity, PA

Boarded at Spalding tavern in Amity for almost 2 years, and friend of Joseph Miller

Grandson

Neighbor

Neighbor's house where the romance was formerly written

Neighbor in Amity

Lawyer for Hurlbut

Daughter

Son of Henry Lake

Acquaintence of Lake, Wright, Miller, and Howard

Neighbor

Neighbor in Amity

Neighbor in Amity

Daughter

Daughter of John Miller and her family was intimate friends with John Spalding family

Attended Hurlbut lecture, and Hurlbut stayed at his house

Attended Hurlbut lecture

Attended Hurlbut lecture

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teacher in Conneaut who claims to have corrected the manuscript of the Mormon Bible alleged to have been written by Rev. Solomon Spaulding

Boarded at Spalding tavern in Amity for almost 2 years, and friend of Joseph Miller

Lawyer for Hurlbut

Lawyer for Hurlbut

Lawyer for Hurlbut

When?

I made a visit in about three years after (1812 or 1813?)

I was at his house a short time before he left Conneaut (1812 or 1813?)

While engaged in this business (land sells) he boarded at my house, in all nearly six months. All his leisure hours were occupied writing an historical novel

first . .acquanted with Solomon Spalding in December, 1810. After that time I frequently saw him at his house, and also at my house.

first acquinted with Solomon Spalding in 1808 or '9. . .When I was at home one day. (?)

I arrived at this place [Conneaut] about the first of January [1811]. Soon after my arrival, I formed a copartnership with Solomon Spalding

In the year 1811, I was in the employ of Henry Lake and Solomon Spalding. While ther I boarded and lodged in the family of said Spalding for several months. I was soon introduced to the manuscripts

In the month of October, 1811. . .I tarried with him nearly two days.

This was about the year 1812

How old were you when your father wrote the manuscript? Ans: About five years of age [1812?]

The war that broke out with England [1812]. . .I went to see my brother and staid with him some time.

fall of 1814 to fall of 1816?

[fall] 1814. . .for eighteen or twenty months

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I think Spauldin removed to Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, prior to my information of his tale on the mounds.

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frequented his house

1833-34

During the war of 1812

1834

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about the beginning of the year 1812, commenced to write his famous romance. . .This romance, Mr. Spaulding brought with him on a visit to my father, a short time before he moved from Conneaut to Pittsburgh [winter 1812?]

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1811?

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1833?

1833 or 1834

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Long ago in the past, I have forgotten the year

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winter 1833-34

In the winter of 1833-34, or in the early spring of 1834

1833-'34

Writing?

Writing a book

he was then writing

All his leisure hours were occupied writing an historical novel . . .I (Spalding) have been writing the history of the first Settlement of America, and I intend to go to Pittsburg, and there live a retired life, till I have completed the work

He told me he was writing a history

he was writing

from a manuscript he was writing

He soon after failed in business, and told me he would retire from the din of his creditors, finish the book and have it published.

a book, which he had been writing

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He began to compose his novel. . . .There [at the point in the story where the main character meets a civilized nation at war with savages] I left him and never saw him nor his writings any more. . . .She informed me, if I recollect right, that my brother continued his history of the civilized nation and the progress of the war until the triumph of the savages to the destruction of the civilized government.

after it was written

Mr. Spalding spending much time in writing

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She said that my father loaned this "Manuscript Found" to Mr. Patterson, of Pittsburgh, and that when he returned it to my father, he said: "Polish it up, finish it, and you will make money out of it."

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He told me he lived in Ohio when he wrote his manuscript

Patterson said he, Patterson would publish it, if he, Spaulding, would write a title page.

He suggested, however, that Mr. Spaulding should write a brief preface, and perhaps a chapter or two in concluding the romance, giving a little more elaborate description of the Indian mounds in Ohio. Her mother thought he was engaged in doing that at the time I was living with the family at Amity

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Title?

Manuscript Found

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Manuscript Found

Manuscript Found

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Manuscript Found

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The title of his novel, I think, was "Historical Novel," or "Manuscript Found."

He called it The Manuscript Found, or The Lost Manuscript Found

He called it Lost History Found, -- Lost Manuscript, or some such name

Manuscript Found

"Manuscript Found"

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Manuscript Found

It was entitled, "The [Lost Tribes?]: or, The Manuscript Found."

On the outside of this manuscript were written the words, "Manuscript Found."

called 'Manuscript Found; or, the Lost Tribes.'

called 'Manuscript Found; or, the Lost Tribes.'

called by him "The Manuscript Found."

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he called it the lost manuscript found

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Manuscript Found'

"Manuscript Found"

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"Manuscript Found"

"Manuscript Found"

called 'The Book of Mormon

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"manuscript found"

Manuscript Story and "Manuscript Found"

"Manuscript Found" and "manuscript'

Read How Much?

he (Spalding) read to me many passages

I read and heard read

During this time he was at my house, I read and heard read one hundred pages or more.

frequently showed me his writing, which I read.

one day, he showed and read to me . . .Upon the subject we had frequent conversations. . .as I read and heard read in the writings of Spalding

He very frequently read to me from a manuscript. . .I spent many hours in reading said writing, and became well acquainted with its contents.

I was soon introduced to the manuscripts of Spalding, and perused them as often as I had leisure. . . .From this [Manuscript Found] he would frequently read some humorous passages to the company present.

Before showing me his manuscript, he went into a verbal relation of its outlines. . .He then presented the manuscriot, when we sat down, and spent a good share of the night in reading them, and conversing upon them.

As he progressed in his narrative, the neighbors would come in from time to time to hear portions read, and a great interest in the work was excited among them. . . .and when he had sufficient portion prepared he would inform them, and they would assemble to hear it read

When I was about twelve years old, I used to read it for diversion [1819?]

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He used to read select portions of these papers to amuse us [of] evenings. . . .I remember to have heard Mr. Spalding read from his Manuscript

I read, or hear[d] him read, many wonderful and amusing passages from different parts of his professed historical records

Rev. Mr. Spaulding was prevailed upon to read his production to his neighbors as it progressed

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Mr. S. seemed to take delight in reading from his manuscript (written on foolscap) for the entertainment of his frequent visitors, heard him read most, if not all of it, and had frequent conversations with him about it.

At one of the meetings we had before us the original manuscript of the Rev. Solomon Spaulding

Afterward he read the manuscript which I had seen him writing, to the neighbors and to a clergyman, a friend of his, who came to see him. . . .I did not read it, but looked through it and had it in my hands many times. . . .My mother. . .stated to me that she had heard the manuscript alluded to read by my father, was familiar with its contents, and she deeply regretted that her husband, as she believed, had innocently been the means of furnishing matter for a religious delusion.

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Spaulding read much of his manuscript to my father. . . .I . . .heard Spaulding read much of his Romance to my father and explain his views and reasons for writing it

we all assembled at his house in the evenings (as he kept tavern), and he frequently would read from his manuscript

often hoard him read from what he called his MS., he came to our house and wanted me to go with him and bail him for 50 Dollars as he needed the money and while on the road he told some of his history. . . .it used to be very common at that day for to gather in at the Public house in the evenings and often Mr. Spaulding would read from his MS, to entertain us.

heard a conversation in relation to the publication of the 'Manuscript.' There were two Mr. Pattersons present, one an elderly gentleman, with a remarkably mild, pleasant countenance, and much more robust than the other. The more slender Mr. Patterson told Mr. Spaulding that he had read several chapters of the 'Manuscript'

While they were at their meals Spalding would lie on the bed and read to them his manuscripts. Father also frequently read them himself. . . .I often heard him [her father] tell about the Nephists and Zerahemlites before the 'Book of Mormon' was published.

I heard Dr. P. Hurlbut, who had been a Mormon preacher, preach a good sermon, and then deliver his first lecture in the Methodist Church in Kirtland, Ohio, on the origin of the Book of Mormon….Hurlbut staid at my house every three or four days for as many months. I read all of his manuscript, including Spaulding's "Manuscript Found," and compared it with the Book of Mormon

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At the close of his lecture he invited the audience to examine it. I took and read from it a little; it was plainly written on letter-sized paper and nearly two inches thick. Soon after I was witness at a lawsuit in Painesville and again heard Hurlbut lecture. At the close Squire Holbrook read to the audience from Spaulding's "Manuscript Found,"

I was often in Hurlbut's company, and once while fishing with him on Lake Erie, after he had left the Mormons, he told me he was going to ferret out Mormonism and break it up….I heard Hurlbut lecture in the Presbyterian Church in Kirtland….I heard Hurlbut lecture before, and after he saw Spaulding's widow.

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We compared it, chapter by chapter with the Mormon Bible.

we had before us in that investigation, the original "Manuscript Found" written by Rev. Solomon Spaulding. . . .I have no doubt we had the "Manuscript Found" before us, that we compared it with the Mormon Bible. . . .Third, that Hurlbut obtained possession of the original "Manuscript Found," that we had [it] to compare with the Mormon Bible before the committee at Mentor.

we had the manuscript of the Rev. Solomon Spaulding before us, that we compared with the Mormon Bible...At the meeting at Mr. J. Corning's in Mentor, in 1834, I have no doubt we had this very identical "manuscript" now published among the papers submitted by Dr. Hurlburt. We also had a copy of the "Manuscript Found," that was compared with the Mormon Bible

Introduction?

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Manuscript Found', and which he represented a being found in this town

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Purported to have been a record found buried in the earth, or in a cave

It claimed to have been written by one of the lost nation, and to have been recovered from the earth

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My brother told me that a young man told him that he had a wonderful dream. He dreamed that he himself (if I recollect right) opened a great mound, where there were human bones. There he found a written history that would answer the inquiry respecting the civilized people that once inhabited that country until they were destroyed by the savages. This story suggested the idea of writing a novel merely for amusement. . . .They both [the Spalding MS and the Book of Mormon] claimed that the manuscripts from which they pretend they copied were of very ancient date and written by men that came here from the old world.

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the idea being that the romance woven by the ex-preacher was dug up out of one of the mounds in the region

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Spaulding's romance professed to find the Record where the Recorder concealed it, in one of those mounds, one of which was but a few rods from Spaulding's residence.

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Romance?

historical romance

historical novel

historical novel

a history

a history

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a historic novel

fabulous or romantic history

historical sketch. . .historical romance

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historical novel

novel

veritable history

romance

romance

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romantic history

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[her mother said] was a romance

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romance

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drama

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About?

first settlers of America

founded upon the first settlers of America

founded upon the first settlers of this country. . .first settlers of America

account of the inhabitants once in this country

first settlers of America

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It purported to be a history of the first settlement of America, before discovered by Columbus.

of the first settlers of this country. . . .account of the first inhabitants of America

long lost race

Did the manuscript describe an idolatrous or a religious people? Ans: An idolatrous people.

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nations or tribes who inhabited Canaan

history of ancient America

a few mounds at the above named village. . . .The novel, as I was told by those who heard it read, referred to them as idolaters and not otherwise religious.

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lost races or tribes

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purporting to be a history of the lost tribes of Israel

and he commenced writing a history of the mounds near where he lived, or of the people who built them

where he lived he discovered some mounds, they appeared to be the work of an ancient race of people and he concluded he would write their history or a fictitious novel of the people that built the mounds

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Now I am very sure he had the identical story [Manuscript Story] that you have printed with him. I remember about the ancient fort at Conneaut Creek, the mound, and the statement of finding the manuscript about the Indians.

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Race?

show that American Indians are descendants of Jews or lost tribes

He had for many years contended that the aborigines of America were the descendants of some of the lost tribes of Israel, and his idea is carried out in the book in question

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lost tribes of Isreal. . .and that the Indians were there descendents

This book represented the American Indians as the descendants of the lost tribes

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long lost race. . .race now extinct

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I think not a Jew

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nations or tribes who inhabited Canaan when, or before, that country was invaded by the Israelites, under Joshua

forgotten race

ten tribes

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lost races or tribes

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lost tribes of Isreal

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[regarding the Manuscript Story] I remember . . .about the Indians.

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Journey?

It gave a detailed account of their journey

He gave a particular account of their journey

He intended to trace their journey

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He traced their journey

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detailing their travels

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The author of it he brings from the Old World, but from what nation I do not recollect; I think not a Jew; nor do I recollect how long since, but I think before the Christian Era.

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pretending that the ten tribes crossed from the eastern hemisphere via the Behring Straits to this continent

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There main objective was to escape the judgement which they supposed were coming upon the old world.

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From where?

from Jerusalem

first came off from Jerusalem

from Jerusalem

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from Jerusalem

gave an account of their leaving Jerusalem

He brought them off from Jerusalem

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the Old World, but from what nation I do not recollect; I think not a Jew

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eastern hemisphere

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He begins with their departure from Palestine or Judea

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To where?

till they arrived in America

till they arrived in America

till their arrival in America

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to America

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landing at the Straits of Darien. . .they were marched about the country for a length of time. . .he brought them across North America in a northeast direction.

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finally landed on the American shore; I think near the mouth of the Mississippi River. . . .He then started and traveled a great distance through a wilderness country inhabited by savages, until he came to a country where the inhabitants were civilized, cultivated their land, and had a regular form of government, which was at war with the savages.

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to this continent

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then up through Asia, points out their exposures, hardships, and sufferings, also their craft for passing over the Straits

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land and sea

land and sea

by land and sea

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land and sea

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He went to sea, lost his point of compass

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via the Behring Straits

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Leaders named?

under the command of Nephi and Lehi

Nephi and Lehi are yet fresh in my memory as the principle heroes of this tale. They were officers…

Nephi and Lehi were by him represented as leading characters

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Nephi, which appeared to be the principle hero of the story.

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He was a man of superior learning suited to that day.

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Disputations?

quarrels and contentions

disputes arose between the chiefs

gave an account of their . . .contentions

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gave account of their. . .contentions. . .which were many and great

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Then after their landing he gave an account of their divisions and subdivisions under different leaders, but two parties controlled the balance.

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Resulting in?

separated into two distinct nations

caused them to separate into two different bands

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Nations named?

denominated Nephites, and the other Lamanites

one of which was called Lamanites, and the other Nephites

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One of them was called the Righteous, worshipers and servants of God. These organized with prophets, priests, and teachers, for the education of their children, and settled down to cultivate the soil, and to a life of civilization. The others were Idolaters. They contended for a life of idleness; in short, a wild, wicked, savage life.

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Wars?

Cruel and bloody wars ensued

Between these two were recounted tremendous battles

gave and account of their. . .wars

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gave account of their. . .wars. . .which were many and great

they were marched about the country for a length of time, in which wars and great bloodshed ensued.

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he came to a country where the inhabitants were civilized, cultivated their land, and had a regular form of government, which was at war with the savages.

He speaks of a battle

He described. . .their wars, stratagems, victories, and defeats &c

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They soon quarreled, and then commenced war anew, and continued to fight, except at very short intervals. Sometimes one party was successful and sometimes the other, until finally a terrible battle was fought, which was conclusive.

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Dead?

great multitudes were slain

which covered the ground with the slain

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All the Righteous were slain, except one, and he was Chief Prophet and Recorder.

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Buried?

They buried their dead in large heaps

their being buried in large heaps

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Mounds?

which caused the mounds so common in this country

was the cause of the numerous mounds in the country

In this way, he would give a satisfactory account of all the old mounds so common to this country

erected. . .mounds, etc.

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In Salem. . .numerous mounds

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said mounds were built by a portion of them, to bury the dead after some hard fighting.

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[regarding the Manuscript Story] I remember about . . .the mound

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Fortifications?

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who erected old forts

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In Salem. . .numerous. . .forts

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[regarding the Manuscript Story] I remember about the ancient fort at Conneaut Creek

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Description of people?

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some of these people he represented as being very large

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Specific accounts?

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One time, when he was reading to me the tragic account of laban,

From this [Manuscript Found] he would frequently read some humorous passages to the company present.

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One passage, on page 148 (the copy I have is published by J. O. Wright & Co., New York) I remember distinctly. He speaks of a battle, and says the Amalekites had marked themselves with red on their foreheads to distinguish them from the Nephites. The thought of being marked on the forehead was so strange, it fixed itself in my memory. This, together with other passages, I remember to have heard Mr. Spalding read from his Manuscript.

He described, with great particularity, their numbers, customs, modes of life

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Then on hearing read the account from the book of the battle between the Amalekites and the Nephites, in which the soldiers of one army had placed a red mark on their foreheads to distinguish them from their enemies, it seemed to reproduce in my mind not only the narrative, but the very words, as they had been impressed on my mind by the reading of Spaulding's manuscript

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All the Righteous were slain, except one, and he was Chief Prophet and Recorder. He was notified of the defeat in time by Divine authority; told where, when and how to conceal the record, and He would take care that it should be preserved, and brought to light again at the proper time, for the benefit of mankind. So the Recorder professed to do, and then submitted to his fate. I do not remember what that fate was. He was left alone of his party. I do not remember that anything more was said of him.

The passage you refer to, on page 148, as Cooper has it, in his reference to being marked with red in their foreheads

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Art,Science,etc.

Their arts, sciences and civilizations were brought into view

enlightened and warlike people

gave an account of their arts, sciences, civilizations

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detailing. . .their manners, customs, laws

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Numerous implements were found and other articles evincing great skill in the arts. Mr. Spaulding being an educated man and passionately fond of history, took a lively interest in these developments of antiquity

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There he reflects most feelingly on what he suffered, his present condition and future prospects; he likewise makes some lengthy remarks on astronomy and philosophy, which I should think would agree in sentiment and style with very ancient writings.

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Why stated?

in order to account for all the curious antiquities found in the various parts of North and South America

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He attempted to account for the numorous antiquities which are found upon this continent

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Writing style?

he wrote in the old style

the old, obsolete style

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he had adopted the ancient scripture style of writing

Their extreme antiquity of course would lead him to write in the most ancient style, and as the Old Testament is the most ancient book in the world, he imitated its style as nearly as possible.

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which I should think would agree in sentiment and style with very ancient writings

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His style was flowing and grammatical, though gaunt and abrupt -- very like the stories of the "Maccabees" and other apocryphal books, in the old bibles.

It was written in Bible phraseology, and made as quaintly olden as possible, so as to carry out the conceit of its alleged mound origin

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the quaint style and peculiar language that had made such a deep impression on my mind

The style of composition. . .etc., were the same [i.e Spalding MS and the Book of Mormon].

{her mother said] written in biblical style

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The work was very odd

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struck favorably with its curious descriptions and its likeness to the ancient style of the Old Testament Scriptures

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It was full of Bible expressions, and as I had read the Bible from lid to lid I knew the proper phraseology to use

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It [the Book of Mormon] was written in the same style [as the Spalding MS]

that the style in which the "Manuscript Found" was written was the same as that of the Mormon Bible….Fifth, that the testimony of numerous reliable witnesses states that when they heard read and read it themselves, the Mormon Bible, they at once recognized the peculiar phraseology and the names as those in the "Manuscript Found,"

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Example of style?

commenced about every sentence with 'And it came to pass' or Now it came to pass"

the phrases of "and it came to pass' &c. are the same

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I well recollect telling Mr. Spaulding that the so freuquent use of the words 'And it came to pass,' and 'Now it came to pass,' rendered it ridiculous

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The frequent repetition of the phrase, 'I Nephi,' I recollect as distinctly as though it was but yesterday.

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the very frequent repetition of the phrase, "and it came to pass."

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When it was brought to Conneaut and read there in public, old Esq. Wright heard it, and exclaimed, "Old come to pass has come to life again."

The words "Moreover," "And it came to pass," occurred so often that the boys about the village called him "Old Came to Pass."

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and the expression "and it came to pass" often repeated.

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Read BoM?

I recently read the Book of Mormon

I have read the Book of Mormon

When I heard the historical part of it [the Book of Mormon] related. . .Soon after, I obtained the book, and on reading it. . .

I have lately read the Book of Mormon

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Some months ago, I borrowed the Golden Bible. . .About a week after, my wife. . .commenced reading it aloud as I lay upon the bed.

I have recently examined the Book of Mormon

The Mormon Bible I have partially examined

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Have you ever read any in the Book of Mormon? Ans: I have not.

I never saw the Mormon bible but once, and then only for a minute, no time to examine it.

Some time since, a copy of The Book of Mormon came into my hands. My son read it for me, as I have a nervous shaking of the head that prevents me from reading.

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Some time ago I had in my possession, for about six months, the book of Mormon, and heard most of it read during the time

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My father read the 'Book of Mormon', or heard it read, and was familiar with its contents

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I also have seen and read the Book of Mormon

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I had the Book of Mormon in my house for about six months for the purpose of comparing it with my recollection of the 'Lost Manuscript found,'

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hearing him [Hurlbut] read from the 'Book of Mormon'.

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Same historical?

I find it nearly the same historic matter

I have no manner of doubt that the historical parts are the same

When I heard the historical part related, I at once said it was the writings of Solomon Spalding. . .found much of it the same as Spalding had written

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He traced their journey. . .as it is given in the Book of Mormon.The historical parts of the Book of Mormon I know to be the same . . .as the writtings of Spalding. . .the historical part of the Book of Mormon , were as familiar to me before I read it, as most modern history.

One time, when he was reading to me the tragic account of laban, I pointed out to him what I considered an inconsistency, which he promised ot correct: but. . .referring to the Book of Mormon. . .I find. . .it stands there just as he read it to me then. . . .I was astonished to find the same passages in it [the Book of Mormon] that Spalding had read to me. . . .I. . .have no hesitation in saying that the historical part of it is principally, if not wholly, taken from the manuscript Found

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The historical part was immediately recognized by all the older inhabitants, as the identical work of Mr. S., in which they had been so deeply interested years before. Mr. John Spaulding was present, who is an eminently pious man, and recognized perfectly the work of his brother.

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the historical part of which is the same as Spaulding's "Manuscript Found"

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The "Manuscript Found," written by the Rev. Solomon Spaulding in Conneaut, Ashtabula County, O., in 1809-'12 was the basis of the historical portions of the Mormon Bible, if any credibility is to be given to positive human testimony….Now there is no doubt that the Rev. Solomon Spaulding wrote the "Manuscript Found": that the historical part of the Book of Mormon was taken from that manuscript, if human testimony is to be relied on as of any validity

Same names?

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the names, especially, are the same without any alteration. . .I will observe the names. . .were as familiar to me before I read it [the Book of Mormon]

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The names of Nephi, Lehi, and Moroni, and in fact all the principal names, are brought fresh to my recollection by the Golden Bible.

I well remember the name of Nephi

He was enabled from his acquaintance with the classics and ancient history, to introduce many singular names, which were particularly noticed by the people [she specifically mentions John Spalding] and could be easily recognized by them

Does the manuscript and the Book of Mormon agree? Ans: I think some of the names agree. Ques.Are you certain that some of the names agree? Ans: I am not.

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the Amalekites. . .the Nephites

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the Amalekites and the Nephites

the names, etc., were the same [i.e Spalding MS and the Book of Mormon].

Some of the names that he mentioned while reading to these people I have never forgotten. They are as fresh to me to-day as though I heard them yesterday. They were "Mormon," "Maroni," "Lamenite," "Nephi." . . .looked through it and had it in my hands many times, and saw the names I had heard at Conneaut, when my father read it to his friends. . .while we had no personal knowledge that the Mormon Bible was taken from the "Manuscript Found," there were many evidences to us that it was . . .A convincing proof to us of this belief was that my uncle, William H. Sabine, had undoubtedly read the manuscript while it was in his house, and his faith that its production would show to the world that the Mormon Bible had been taken from it, or was the same with slight alterations.

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In both, many having the same name; as Maroni, Mormon, Nephites, Moroni, Lama[n], Neph[i], and others.

Nephites, I recollect distinctly, as occurring very often; as to "Lamanites" it is not so distinct, -- and a great many other names that were very odd.

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The Mormon Bible was published in 1830 or '31 and had a wide circulation in northeastern Ohio. After reading it, John Spaulding, John R. Miller, Henry Lake and others at Conneaut unanimously agreed that it was a fraud and imposture, and publicly denounced it as such, finding in it whole chapters but little altered from what they had heard Mr. Spaulding read from his story of the ten tribes some twenty years before. In short, that it was really founded upon Mr. Spaulding's romance. Many striking passages had so impressed them that they could not be mistaken. Their exposure and the reasons that justified them in making it, were considered truthful and satisfactory by all who knew them.

many of the names were the same

The names -- peculiar -- were the same, not to be forgotten. The names Lehi, Nephi, Maroni, etc….Fifth, that the testimony of numerous reliable witnesses states that when they heard read and read it themselves, the Mormon Bible, they at once recognized....the names as those in the "Manuscript Found,"

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Same in general

it is the same as my Brother Solomon wrote

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I. . .found much of it the same as Spalding had written

believe it to be the same as Spalding had written

If it is not Spaldings writing, it is the same as he wrote

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I. . .find in it [the Book of Mormon] the writings of Solomon Spalding, from beginning to end. . .Many of the passages in the Mormon book are verbatim from Splading, and other in part.

I. . .am fully of the opinion that Solomon Spalding had written its [the Mormon Bible] its outline before he left Conneaut.

Thus an historical romance, with the addition of a few pious expressions and extracts from the sacred Scriptures, has been construed into a new Bible and palmed off upon a company of poor deluded fanatics, as divine

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although there was nothing in it of Mormonism or that favored error in any way, yet I am apprehensive that they took pattern from it in forming their delusion. . . .but if I have been rightly informed, there is a striking resemblance between the first start and introduction of the Mormon bible and my brother's novel. They both claimed that the manuscripts from which they pretend they copied were of very ancient date and written by men that came here from the old world.

I noticed several passages which I recollect having heard Mr. Spalding read from his Manuscript. . . .From what I know of Mr. Spalding's Manuscript and The Book of Mormon, I firmly believe that Joseph Smith, by some means, got possession of Mr. Spalding's Manuscript, and possibly made some changes in it and called it The Book of Mormon.

It is quite probable therefore, that, with some alterations, The Book of Mormon was, in fact, The Lost Book, or Lost History Found, of my old landlord, Solomon Spalding, of Amity, Washington County, Pennsylvania.

the widow of Mr. Spaulding and her daughter, Mrs. Dr. McKinstry of Monson, compared the Smith Bible with the parson's romance, and they were essentially the same. The similarity was so overwhelming as to leave no doubt that Smith copied in full Rev. Mr. Spaulding's writing, and made out of it bodily his divine "revelation."

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The longer I live the more firmly I am convinced that Spaulding's MS was appropriated and largely used in getting up the Book of Mormon.

From this work of the Rev. Mr. Spaulding the Mormon Bible was constructed. I do not think there can be any doubt of this. It was the opinion of the committee after comparing the Mormon Bible with the manuscript. The style of composition, the names, etc., were the same.

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My Father. . .told me it was unquestionably derived from a manuscript written by. . .Solomon Spalding. . . .Since 1834 I have conversed with Aaron Wright, John N. Miller, and Nathan Howard . . .they told me they believed the 'Book of Mormon' was derived from Spalding's 'Manuscript Found.'

I heard them [Lake, Wright, Miller, and Howard] all say that the 'Book of Mormon' was undoubtedlly taken from a manuscript written by Solomon Spalding, which they had heard Spalding read in 1811 or 1812, called 'Manuscript Found; or, the Lost Tribes'

It is a fact well established that the book called the Book of Mormon, had its origin from a romance that was written by Solomon Spaulding. . . .It begins with them just where the romance did, and it follows the romance very closely. It is true there are some verbal alterations and additions, enlarging the production somewhat, without changing its main features. The Book of Mormon follows the romance too closely to be a stranger. . . .Here then we are presented with Romance, second, called the Book of Mormon, telling the same story of the same people, traveling from the same plain, in the same way, having the same difficulties and destination, with the same wars, same battles, and same results, with thousands upon thousands slain. Then see the Mormon account of the last battle, at Cumorah, where all the righteous were slain. . . .How much this resembles the closing scene in the "Manuscript Found." The most singular part of the whole matter is that it follows the romance so closely, with this difference: the f

The MS that I saw, would not, I think, make as large a book as the Book of Mormon.

I unhesitatingly say that a great part of the historical part of the Book of Mormon is identical with the MS. and I fully believe that the MS. is the foundation of the whole concern.

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Frequently father would would request Hurlbut stop reading and he would state what followed and hurlbut would say that it was so in the 'Book of Mormon'. . . .Father said he had no doubt the historical parts of the 'Book of Mormon' was Spalding's 'Manuscript Found.'

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The Mormon Bible was published in 1830 or '31 and had a wide circulation in northeastern Ohio. After reading it, John Spaulding, John R. Miller, Henry Lake and others at Conneaut unanimously agreed that it was a fraud and imposture, and publicly denounced it as such, finding in it whole chapters but little altered from what they had heard Mr. Spaulding read from his story of the ten tribes some twenty years before. In short, that it was really founded upon Mr. Spaulding's romance. Many striking passages had so impressed them that they could not be mistaken. Their exposure and the reasons that justified them in making it, were considered truthful and satisfactory by all who knew them.

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It was written in the same style; many of the names were the same, and we came to the conclusion, from all the testimony before us, that the Rev. Sidney Rigdon, the eloquent Mormon preacher, made the Mormon Bible from this manuscript. Of this the committee had no doubt whatever.

I have said and believed for more than fifty years that I have seen and had in my hands the original "Manuscript Found" from which the Mormon Bible was made

we had no doubt that from Spaulding's writings the Rev. Sidney Rigdon got up the Mormon Bible. I am convinced of it now. Here are some of the reasons:. . .We also had a copy of the "Manuscript Found," that was compared with the Mormon Bible and satisfied the committee that it was the basis of the Mormon Bible. I have said and believed since 1834 that I had seen and examined the original "Manuscript Found" of Solomon Spaulding, out of which Sidney Rigdon got up the Mormon Bible.

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But no religious matter was introduced as I now recollect.

I. . .believe it to be the same as Spalding wrote, except the religious part.

except the religious matter

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I believe, that leaving out of the book the portion that may be easily recognised as the work of Joe Smith and his accomplices, that Solomon Spaulding may be truly said to be its author. I have not a doubt of it.

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By what means it has fallen into the hands of Joseph Smith, Jr., I am unable to determine

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My recollection is that Mr. S. had left a transcript of the manuscript with Mr. Patterson, of Pittsburgh, Pa., for publication, that its publication was delayed until Mr. S. would write a preface, and in the meantime the transcript was spirited away and could not be found.

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the avails of which he though would enable him to pay all debt

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when it is printed, it will bring me a fine sum of money, which will enable me to return and pay off all my debts

in one centuries time, it [the history] would be believed as any other history

in time it would fully believed by all, except learned men and historians. . . .I think it was by the same spirit that Spalding was, which he confessed to be the love of money.

Spalding left here in 1812 and I furnished him the means to carry him to Pittsburg, where he said he would get the book printed and pay me.

that in after years it would be believed by many people as much as the history of England. . . .He soon after failed in business, and told me he would retire from the din of his creditors, finish the book and have it published, which would enable him to pay his debts and support his family.

his only hope of ever paying his debts, appeared to be upon the sale of the book, which he had been writing. He endeavored to convince me from the nature and character of the work, that it would meet with a ready sale. . . .He. . .remarked that, after this generation had passed away, his account of the first inhabitants of America would be considered as authentic as any other history.

in order to beguile the hours of retirement and furnish employment for his lively imagination, he conceived the idea of giving an historical sketch of this long lost race. . . .His sole object in writing this historical romance was to amuse himself and his neighbors

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I should be pleased to oblige you satisfactorily, but my recollection and faculty of mind is so much impaired with age and infirmity, being within two months of ninety years of age, I can give but a broken narrative. . . .He began to compose his novel, which it is conjectured that the Mormons made use of in forming their bible. . . .yet I am apprehensive that they took pattern from it in forming their delusion. . . .but from what nation I do not recollect; I think not a Jew; nor do I recollect how long since. . . .She informed me, if I recollect right. . . .I do not recollect his name. . . .I think she told me. . . .I have but little knowledge of the Mormons. . . .but if I have been rightly informed

From what I know of Mr. Spalding's Manuscript and The Book of Mormon

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my memory, in common with elderly people, is clearer in regard to the events of my earlier years, rather than those of my maturer life. . . .So far I have stated facts within my own knowledge

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He frequently wrote little stories, which he read to me. . .one of these was an old trunk, in which my mother had placed all my father's writings which had been preserved. . . .I perfectly remember the appearance of this trunk, and of looking at its contents. There were sermons and other papers, and I saw a manuscript, about an inch thick, closely written, tied with some of the stories my father had written for me, one of which he called, "The Frogs of Wyndham."

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I read all of his manuscript, including Spaulding's "Manuscript Found,"

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But I believe he had also with him, and we had before us in that investigation, the original "Manuscript Found" written by Rev. Solomon Spaulding. I have said and believed for more than fifty years that I have seen and had in my hands the original "Manuscript Found" from which the Mormon Bible was made. . . .Second, that Spaulding wrote more than one story, as we have positive knowledge of two.

The "manuscript" published at Lamoni is another one of Spauldlng's, and has no more to do with the authorship of the Book of Mormon than it has with the authorship of that most wonderful of all poems, the Book of Job, or the authorship of Junius' Letters. It proves nothing....This fact should not be lost sight of -- that Solomon Spaulding wrote two or more pamphlets on different subjects.

 


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